Supreme Court Affidavits




THE NEW ZEALAND GAZETTE. 144

with politics; if he had been on our side we
would have dragged him through guilty or
not guilty." I, this deponent, then asked the
said Margaret Langley if she had stated that
in her evidence that day; she said "no"; I
replied that she had done very wrong in not
doing so; she, the said Margaret Langley,
replied that she, the said Margaret Langley,
was afraid to say more than answer the ques-
tions asked her, and that as the said Charles
Johnson Pharazyn was her, the said Margaret
Langley's, brother-in-law, and as her, the
said Margaret Langley's child was living with
the said Charles Johnson Pharazyn, she, the
said Margaret Langley, thought if she had
stated what had passed between her, the said
Margaret Langley, and the said Charles
Johnson Pharazyn, it would make things un-
pleasant for her own child.

  1. On or about the ninth day of Septem-
    ber, instant, Caroline Mathews, who lives as
    a domestic servant with the said Arthur
    Baker, called at my house, and told me that
    on Saturday, the fourth day of September,
    instant, the said Charles Johnson Pharazyn
    came to the residence of the said Arthur
    Baker, and that she, the said Caroline
    Mathews, then said to the said Charles John-
    son Pharazyn, "if Mr. Baker had not
    meddled with politics this would never have
    happened"; the said Charles Johnson Phara-
    zyn replied; "no, he has acted very foolishly;
    if he had not meddled with our politics we
    would have dragged him through, guilty or
    not guilty," or words to the like purport or
    effect.

(Signed) MARY ANNE MASON.
Sworn at Wellington, aforesaid,
the 27th day of September,
1858,
Before me,
(Signed) ROBERT R. STRANG,
Registrar.

In the Supreme Court
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of New Zealand for
the Southern District.)

I, Thomas Kemmis Warburton, of Welling-
ton, in the Province of Wellington and Colo-
ny of New Zealand, Storekeeper, make oath
and say:

That on Thursday the twenty-third day of
September, instant, Margaret Langley, who
lives as housekeeper with Arthur Baker of
Wellington aforesaid Clerk called at my house
and in the course of conversation she the said
Margaret Langley mentioned to me that
Charles Johnson Pharazyn of Wellington
aforesaid Esquire had, pending the hearing of
the case " Schroder v. Baker," called upon the
said Margaret Langley at the residence of the
said Arthur Baker and that the said Charles
Johnson Pharazyn then spoke to the said
Margaret Langley to the following effect,
"take my warning-mind what you say in
the Court, if you say anything in favour of
Mr. Baker, you will have awkward questions
asked you you know what was said about
you and Walter Alzdorf," I then asked the

said Margaret Langley if she had stated this
to Mr. Bunny or Mr. Baker, she said "No."
I then told her she ought in justice to have
done so, she replied she was never asked, I
then asked her if she had any objection to my
mentioning her conversation, the said Mar-
garet Langley replied "No, that if I re-
quired she would repeat the same to any one
and that she would mention it at once to Mr.
Baker."
(Signed) THOS. K. WARBURTON,
Sworn at Wellington aforesaid,
the twenty-seventh day of
September, 1858,
Before me,
(Signed) ROBERT R. STRANG.
Registrar.
Re-sworn by the Deponent, at
Wellington, this twenty-
eighth day of September,
1858,
Before me,
(Signed) ROBERT R. STRANG.
Registrar.

In the Supreme Court)
of New Zealand,
Southern District

Re application of ARTHUR BAKER.

I, Charles Johnson Pharazyn, of the Town
of Wellington, in the Province of Wellington:
Swear, that in going to see Margaret Lang-
ley, the Housekeeper of the Reverend Arthur
Baker, at the residence of Arthur Baker, I
was actuated solely by kindly motives towards
her on account of the connection which exist-
ed between her and my wife and her niece,
Francis Margaret Buckland, alluded to in the
affidavits already filed in this matter.

And I swear that I have never said any-
thing to the said Margaret Langley or to Caro-
line Mathews, to influence or intimidate them
or either of them nor have I ever had any in-
terest or desire to influence or intimidate them
or either of them in giving testimony in the
matter lately pending before the Magistrates
at Wellington, between the said Arthur Baker
and Mary Schroder, in favour of or against
either of the said parties.
(Signed) C. J. PHARAZYN.
Sworn by the deponent at
Wellington this thirtieth
day of September, 1858,
Before me
(Signed) ROBERT R. STRANG,
Registrar.

Wellington, 1 October, 1858.

SIR,-I have the honor to enclose herewith
a letter to His Excellency Colonel Gore
Browne, in the case of "Schroder v. Baker,"
and to request your attention to the same.

I have the honor to remain, Sir,
Your obt. hble. st.
C. J. PHARAZYN.

To the Honorable the Colonial Secretary,
Auckland.



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⚖️ Affidavits regarding witness testimony in Schroder v Baker case (continued from previous page)

⚖️ Justice & Law Enforcement
27 September 1858
Supreme Court, Affidavit, Witness intimidation, Schroder case, Pharazyn, Langley, Mathews, Mason, Johnson, Alzdorf
6 names identified
  • Margaret Langley, Stated she was afraid to say more
  • Charles Johnson Pharazyn, Brother-in-law, subject of intimidation context
  • Caroline Mathews, Reported conversation with Pharazyn
  • Arthur Baker, Mentioned regarding politics
  • Mary Anne Mason, Deponent making the statement
  • Walter Alzdorf, Mentioned in warning to Langley

  • Robert R. Strang, Registrar

⚖️ Affidavit regarding intimidation of witness Margaret Langley in Schroder v Baker

⚖️ Justice & Law Enforcement
27 September 1858
Supreme Court, Affidavit, Witness intimidation, Schroder case, Pharazyn, Langley, Baker, Bunny, Alzdorf
6 names identified
  • Margaret Langley, Housekeeper allegedly warned by Pharazyn
  • Arthur Baker, Clerk, employer of Langley
  • Charles Johnson Pharazyn, Allegedly warned Langley
  • Mr. Bunny, Mentioned in conversation query
  • Walter Alzdorf, Mentioned in warning to Langley
  • Thos. K. Warburton, Deponent making the statement

  • Robert R. Strang, Registrar

⚖️ Charles J. Pharazyn's sworn denial of witness intimidation in Schroder v Baker

⚖️ Justice & Law Enforcement
30 September 1858
Supreme Court, Affidavit, Denial, Witness testimony, Schroder case, Baker, Langley, Mathews, Buckland
  • Arthur Baker (Reverend), Employer of Langley
  • Margaret Langley, Housekeeper, connection to Pharazyn's wife
  • Francis Margaret Buckland, Niece of Pharazyn's wife
  • Caroline Mathews, Mentioned as someone he did not influence
  • Mary Schroder, Party in case against Baker

  • C. J. Pharazyn
  • Robert R. Strang, Registrar

⚖️ Letter forwarding correspondence regarding Schroder v Baker case to Colonial Secretary

⚖️ Justice & Law Enforcement
1 October 1858
Correspondence, Schroder v Baker, Colonel Gore Browne, Colonial Secretary
  • C. J. Pharazyn
  • His Excellency Colonel Gore Browne
  • The Honorable the Colonial Secretary, Auckland